Posts by Mr Bean

False prophet, false name

by Mr Bean in

they've made so bad name for god and his organization.

that they have to hide their identities in order to start.

any conversation.

Mr Bean

They've made so bad name for god and his organization
that they have to hide their identities in order to start
any conversation. People are on the run when they hear
name - Jehovah!

Beautiful results after over 100 years of preaching false teachings, new/old light/lie.

Nice glory added to man made name. Thanks God, they didn't used
the real God's name. He would probably destroyed them all ready.
That way they still have a chance to repent.

The false prophet using the false name.

No harm done!

:D

Peace...

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now i know that a few of you would give me some sarcastic answers as to why to believe in it, or maybe i should say, have faith in the god who inspired it.. but i want to know why a person should believe in it?

i know that i want to, i want to believe in a god who cares for us, i want to believe that he will put an end to the misery that surrounds us, i want to believe in a hope for the future.. i am not trying to be idealistic either.

but is there solid evidence to believe in it.

Mr Bean

My points for support for the Bible.

1. Because we do not have anything better.
2. There are many evidences of out of body experiences, ghosts, predictions, miracles, stigmata.
3. Whichever way we will look, logic points us to God or ET or UFO.
Example: if evolution is not just theory, than must be somewhere a civilization on much more advance level than out Earth and tan civilization is able to create different, very advanced form of life.

God, welcome!

If evolution is a myth, welcome God again!

Few points against the Bible.

1. Whoever wrote the Bible had not slightest idea about technologies we are using today.
2. Debates about Jesus being God or just an angel or archangel Michael, or He is part of the trinity or not etc, etc. These debates are going for almost 2000 years and looks like we need another 2000 years to solve these problems.
3. Prophecies of the Bible are not accurate. Looks like some so called fulfillments are just guesses not better or worse than Scallion's or Sollogs. Revelation has some hope especially lately.

4. More I know the Bible, less I trust her as being directed by God and inspired by God. When I start to chase who wrote, copied and translated this part or other, is getting harder and harder to believe in God's inspiration and compilation which parts are inspired and which not.

5. It appears clearly that God and Christ are two totally different personalities. God is violent and demanding. Even cruel. Christ is patient, mild, perfect human, trying very hard to fix his fathers mistakes.

As anyone can see, I'm in mess here and now I know less that ever before I’ve started! ;-P

I’m sorry but I’m not buying the best invention of Christianity about trust without examining. Why should I trust the Bible and ignore Koran or Scallion or Nostradamus?

Christ sentence “Blessed who didn’t see but believed” seems to be an invention of smart clergy, not Christ’s. It could be said also this way: “Blessed are naive ones…”

I love an idea of loving God and Christ. That’s why I’ve devoted my best 20 years of hard work for the WTS. If I would have some evidence, I would do it again.

Peace…

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It's the Bible trustworthy word of God?

by Mr Bean in

i have many doubts about the bible itself.. many, many doubts.

when i was jw, ive never questioned the bible firmly believing in their brain washing.

i came out from wts because their lack of strict adherence to the bible.. but... when ive started to read some more independent materials and started to use my own brain, some serious questions started to puzzle me a lot.. the biggest problem i have with the bible is the fact that almost nothing there is written clearly and informations the bible contains are interpretable in many different ways.

Mr Bean

"Why do you have to understand all the Bible?"

Very interesting question.

I do not understand math’s and many other teachings, books etc. In these cases I have no doubts that math’s were written by experts who do know the subject, which I do not understand and I've learned to trust their opinions and relay on their work and expertise.

And I don't have to know these things and they are not necessary for me. The very basic understanding is what I really need.

In case of the Bible, since whole so called Christian world does claim, that the Bible is the word of God and it is vital to know the Bible, I do feel obliged to examine the book and to understand as much as possible. In my 25 years of researching I have many more doubts that I had in the moment I've started.

In these 25 years there were 20 years in slavery of the WTS.

“…but no one said you can't ask.”

Exactly. By asking very provocative questions I can get some interesting answers and that’s way I will understand more.

So far, deeper I go, worse it gets.

So far, stronger and stronger grows my understanding that God’s purpose is to… search for an answer and not necessarily find the answer. The Bible is on of many tools in these researchers.

Peace…

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It's the Bible trustworthy word of God?

by Mr Bean in

i have many doubts about the bible itself.. many, many doubts.

when i was jw, ive never questioned the bible firmly believing in their brain washing.

i came out from wts because their lack of strict adherence to the bible.. but... when ive started to read some more independent materials and started to use my own brain, some serious questions started to puzzle me a lot.. the biggest problem i have with the bible is the fact that almost nothing there is written clearly and informations the bible contains are interpretable in many different ways.

Mr Bean

Faithful2Jah

Nice name. Reflecting perfectly your personality.

FWIW. I do believe in God. And I think I will always believe in Him.
Maybe the Bible is just a research of God which I can respect but a claim that the Bible is unmistakable exact word of God himself is as hard to swallow as hard is take the statement form the WTS that they are directed by Holy Spirit.

Are you declaring yourself ‘faithful’ or… Jah has declared you?

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It's the Bible trustworthy word of God?

by Mr Bean in

i have many doubts about the bible itself.. many, many doubts.

when i was jw, ive never questioned the bible firmly believing in their brain washing.

i came out from wts because their lack of strict adherence to the bible.. but... when ive started to read some more independent materials and started to use my own brain, some serious questions started to puzzle me a lot.. the biggest problem i have with the bible is the fact that almost nothing there is written clearly and informations the bible contains are interpretable in many different ways.

Mr Bean

I have many doubts about the Bible itself.

Many, many doubts. When I was JW, I’ve never questioned the Bible firmly believing in their brain washing. I came out from WTS because their lack of strict adherence to the Bible.

But… when I’ve started to read some more independent materials and started to use my own brain, some serious questions started to puzzle me a lot.

The biggest problem I have with the Bible is the fact that almost nothing there is written clearly and information’s the Bible contains are interpretable in many different ways. When I’m read reading the debate abut trinity or Jesus is God Jehovah or mere angel or son of God etc, I laugh hard at it, because… these debates are going on for almost 2000 years. The law has to be more specific and from God you would expect something more precise and logical than from the man. In the Bible is opposite. It’s a book full of contradictions, double meanings, and as whole
Book does not make a sense.

I have many problems with Jesus prophecies. They are not precise and the destruction of Jerusalem it could be just a fluke. “There will be wars and war news”

No one news in the Bible suggesting that the writer had any idea about today’s technology. (Compare with Mary Shipton.)

Also, I have posted few days ago another puzzle here, this time about apostle Peter.

“ http://wesley.nnu.edu/noncanon/gospels/gospete.htm
1. Why his letters were inspired but Gospel was not?
2. Why his Gospel was not preserved by God as whole Gospel?
3. It's an evidence that he was cited in past. His witnessing
would be unreliable and not trust worthy?
4. That would means that Jesus has chosen wrong man?
5. Jesus knew abut Judas but, what about Peter?
Just wonder who can solve that little puzzle.”
No responses at all.

It looks to me that some guys while being high on something wrote some come cool stories, others were copying and these ones which we supported by others were included in whole writings and these ones which were conflicting, were rejected.
The same idea applying to Greek Scriptures. They seem to liked John, Mark, Matthew and Luke but they didn’t Peter, Thomas and perhaps many others so… they didn’t copied them and CC has compiled these texts into one part and… many people are debating about these texts for thousands of years!

Any Bible defenders here?

I want to know if I've missed something here. I’m searching for the truth like many others and the longer I’m searching, the worse it gets.

Should you trust Peter?

by Mr Bean in

i have many doubts about peter and the bible itself.. http://wesley.nnu.edu/noncanon/gospels/gospete.htm.

1. why his letters were inspired but gospel was not?.

2. why his gospel was not preserved by god as whole gospel?.

Mr Bean

I have many doubts about Peter and the Bible itself.

http://wesley.nnu.edu/noncanon/gospels/gospete.htm

1. Why his letters were inspired but Gospel was not?
2. Why his Gospel was not preserved by God as whole Gospel?
3. It's an evidence that he was cited in past. His witnessing
would be unreliable and not trust worthy?
4. That would means that Jesus has chosen wrong man?
5. Jesus knew abut Judas but, what about Peter?

Just wonder who can solve that little puzzle.

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Israel could be 666?

by Mr Bean in

just think about it for a moment.. israel is the two horned (headed) beast, small horn (head) =.

israel.

big horn (head)= usa.

Mr Bean

Mr Bean, try a cup of decaf and relax. All prophesy is BS. This line of speculation will lead to antisemitism if your not careful.
Anton

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Aha....

I was right that 666 = Israel and this beast is... worshipped! ;-)

If you not render her an act of worship, than you are...

And in the same sentence you are trying to tell me that "All prophecy
is BS".

Very interesting and... educating.

Thanks... ;-P

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Israel could be 666?

by Mr Bean in

just think about it for a moment.. israel is the two horned (headed) beast, small horn (head) =.

israel.

big horn (head)= usa.

Mr Bean

<quote>Hey, Mr. bean, sounds to me like you read the book called "Satan's Government" by Michael Joachim</quote>

Never did! Never heard of. ;-D

I'm looking at WW III slowly showing an ugly head and I'm trying to find out where I'm and where the whole world is going. It does not look good.

It does not mean that I'm scared. I do live in the one of the safest cities in the world where Devil himself is saying "Goodnight everybody" to all of us. No one cares about us. It is good like that.

The drive for the truth (not trooth of the WTS!) and meaning of life has pushed me into this forum in the hope, that I can get a bit further with my research.

Asking many questions and provoking some answers is not bad tool in my research. As I've said before, I'm searching for the truth. I don't think I have found it. Maybe I'm on the right path to it but... if facts will be against my current belief, I will change it 180 degrees if convincing evidence will be provided.

Today Israel could be 666, tomorrow USA and three weeks later it could be... China. ;-P

I'm prepared for any answer! ;-P

So far Israel seems to be the one!

Peace...

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Ghosts

by RWC in

through one of the respopnses to old hippie's strange noise thread, a thought occurred to me.

do atheists or agnostics believe in ghosts?

and if you do, what do you think they are?

Mr Bean

IMHO

We should change the way we are calling these things. These terms were good 2000 years ago. Today, terms like UFO, ET would me more appropriate. The religion implies to us that God is just only good, omnipotent etc. Demons are pure evil.
We do know that in real live no one is only bad or only good. Since we are created as God’s image… .

Here is very interesting link: http://www.bibleufo.com/index.htm

Peace...

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Israel could be 666?

by Mr Bean in

just think about it for a moment.. israel is the two horned (headed) beast, small horn (head) =.

israel.

big horn (head)= usa.

Mr Bean

Regards worshipping the beast.

Whole Hollywood is run by Jews. Of course Hollywood is worshipped.
70% mass media, TV stations, radio stations, record companies, MTV,
CNN, ABC, now AOL and Netscape and newspapers are owned by Jews.
Of course their idols are worshipped.

USA is run by Jews and the world do admire USA power and riches and
Technologies.

Yes. That beast is worshipped. Every evening people on front of TV sets,
behind newspapers and computers are rendering an act of worshipping that beast.

And the beast is starting to impose a great tribulation which was never experienced
before in human history. Big Brother is watching. Every phone conversation is recorded,
scanned and stored. Every email is scanned and stored. Everything you type on the screen is recorded by M$ and your hard drive. Formatting does not remove data permanently. They can see us inside our homes. They can hear us inside our homes without bugs. We do have the most sophisticated system of the mind control.
They are trying to censor Internet. All ready some search engines are paid to not display
sensitive information’s about alternative fuels and other sensitive subjects.

Now take a closer look an infamous Patriot Bill and guess how far we are from the greatest tribulation the world has ever experienced.

I’m not supporter of the WTS! I’m a bit skeptical about the Bible. But, these things seems to be real. If aliens (demons) are running with USA whole show, sooner or later they will revile their existence and they will try to persuade whole world to invest in powerful weaponry to be able to withstand an attack from outer space, because is planned by some other aliens.

And that would the battle of Armageddon.

One more thing. I do not believe in all of this, but… I’m incline to believe.

I do not believe in one word of the WTS because… they should print such information, not me! ;-P.

One more interesting point. The war in the Middle East was declared by Palestinians. The smallest nation in the world. Makes you wonder, huh? I have to find out where I’ve heard that prophecy.

Any idea?

Peace…